Just found out Floyd Kite died today in San Diego at 90. Probably just a couple hours ago. This was definitely one of his most famous talks. I found him to be a nice older man. Seemed to acknowledge through an older mans ramblings at times, that he had many regrets in how he treated people. He had a good heart, but was a true believer to the fullest. Company man through and through. His funeral will be a big event in San Diego i think.
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Floyd Kite's "Enduring the Tests Within God's Organization" (1980)
by Leolaia inthats a big test.
can you think of the test that that would put on gods people?
its a big test, its a big test.
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Feeling the Guilt
by Saethydd ini'm currently disfellowshipped and living at home with my parents, but because they are both still devout jws i have to keep going to the meetings and crap because i don't want to risk getting thrown out until i finish college or find a job that will let me support myself and go to college.. yesterday, my mother rode with me to the meeting and told me how much my best friend and my oldest sister are missing me, and it just tears me apart because during the meeting i was practically counting the minutes till it was over.
it didn't help matters that i had to sit with my family because the library was closed off, thus forcing me to follow along with the meeting on my tablet instead of reading something useful or interesting like i normally do.. when i got home i just cried out in frustration because it feels like no matter what i do, i am making the wrong choice.
either i have to keep pretending to support an organization that has caused so much pain to so many people, or i have to abandon my family and friends to it so i can save myself.
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My humble suggestion since you are so young is as follows. Try to remember that the way you think and feel NOW, is not the way you may think and feel as you get older. You have figured out that the organization is bunk. Good for you! You are way ahead of the game.
But so that you have the best way of retaining your family, and not living with strife and anxiety, I woudl say go along to get along currently. Get reinstated, and as you get older (how old are you), you can make your life your own. Don't be in a rush to leave, educate yourself vigerously, and plan your life NOT worrying about this silly religion. Once you have the motive, self confidence, and plan to enact your life.....the elders and the entire system will just sort of fall away as silly to you. You can speak to your parents and siblings on their level.
Don't lose your family. Don't be rash. Try to think LONG term. Today is just a day. Its early in your life. BE PATIENT. EDUCATE YOURSELF.
May I ask how old you are, and the basic reason for disfellowshipping? (no real details needed).
Take care!
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Anyone know what this sculpture is of the "torture stake?"
by charity7 inhey guys!
i'm new on this site and am a non jw here married to a jw.
my husband's family are active members and they daily post articles on facebook from jw.org which i know is meant for me to see and read.
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Charity....you are more right than you know. JWs define how right they are by the amount of things that make them "different". Such as no birthdays, no voting, no cross, no trinity, no blood, no collection plate, etc....
So it can be difficult to get anywhere here. Its best to say it doesnt matter to you what he died on, but the best records available say it was most lilely a cross. Maybe here is a thought experiment. Ask if it woild mean anything to them if concrete proof was identified that ahowed he died on a cross. Would it shake their faith? (It would). Then proclaim it wouldnt matter to you.
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Confused
by confused3426 ini am a newbie, and yes current jw.
i have been dealing with a lot confusion for months now.
i guess it started last year when i found myself losing my zeal, desire for spiritual things.
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Embrace this one singular truth.....there is no one singular truth. We have been where you are at. Take your time, and consider thoa to be possiblyvyour one and only life......and live it!
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Has anyone else seen this video on JW Broadcasting?
by NikL inso i was checking out the website to see what the february broadcast was all about before i watched it with my jw wife.. on the front page was this video.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/pub-jwbai_201607_1_video.
i watched it and pretended i had never been a jw.. if you pretend you don't understand their particular language it makes for a interesting (if not vague) watch.. btw i've seen several of the actors before.
jw version of movie stars?
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Wow. My kids are really young, and they just don't know what a bullet they dodged when daddy decided to skip out on the religion of his youth. Sheesh.
Here is what is interesting. He doesn't explain what "when things started getting physical" meant. I don't think however it meant sex. The reason is because he is clearly in pioneer or christian evangelizer school at the end after it had "been a few years". If he had sex, he would have been disfellowshipped, and barred from attending such a school for 5 years after reinstatement as is their unspoken but sort of spoken custom.
Anyone else catch that?
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my letter to my molestor
by jehovahismyshepard ini wrote the following in my therapy sessions to treat my sexual abuse as an adult.
i thought that you should know that i recently discovered the reason i am weird and at times react strange there is a part of me that will never go away .... no matter how hard i try to control or hide it everyday it will always show it will always stay .. i. thought that you should know this indescribable grueling act of what you did ., that inside my adult mind and body you locked up and left for ever a trapped kid...do you know how hard it must be to accept that ?
do you even care ?do you ever feel bad when you look in the mirror who do you see when you stare?
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Thank you for sharing that with us. I can only imagine. I hope you continue to heal. YOU are in control now! :)
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Richard in what way are those numbers "official"? Do you mind answering my earlier questions? thanks man.
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Occupations that will disappear
by joker inwhile growing up in the cult one thing that always bothered me was the way witnesses could forecast jobs/occupations that we're going to vanish in their new world.. for example, we would usually discuss at saturday night wt studies how doctors, nurses, funeral directors, and soldiers would go the way of the dodo.
i always found discussions like that just so strange.. in hs, i mounted an unsuccessful effort to enter veterinary sciences, the big answer was always "why" it won't be needed after armageddon 😝😜.
does anyone have their own story about professions that the witnesses believe will not be needed after the big a ?.
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What about the occupations that will get a boost in the new world? I mean, those jobs you guys have mentioned aren't coming back. But they will be replaced with new, tremendous jobs. So many jobs.
Clothing re-purposing - From that closing regional convention video I assume that all former medical scrub clothing will be made into appropriate attire.
Teeth Whiteners - If our teeth are perfect and will lat forever, can you imagine how yellow they will be after a thousand years of eating fruit? I figure I can start this one about 250 years in. After I am done with....
Body disposal - Even after the birds pick off all the flesh from the billions of dead people, what about all of those bones? What about the ones that rot before the birds get to them. Sure god can miraculously make the birds never loose their appetite, but people rot pretty fast. So this is a tiered job with lots of layers, but it can keep a lot of people busy.
Bird killer - I figure those birds are going to become unusually strong from all of the protein they have consumed, and we will probably be unusually weak from lack of it (will we be allowed to eat Spam after the big A?.......no). So we will have to learn how to sling rocks David style at birds with a taste for human flesh trying to pick off the little ones. This is a skill position.
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Young People Ask... When Can I Start Dating?
by pale.emperor inquite possibly the most annoying and patronizing thing i've read in years.
comments of mine are in yellow.. .
she doesn't trust herself to make her own decisions and she's going to wait years even after she thinks she's ready.
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"The bloom of youth" is always funny to me. I personally wouldn't recommend anyone south of 30 get married honestly. But this caveat has JW's barely out of puberty, ready to jump on the marriage train at 20. Crazy.
Lets be honest here......as a man in JW land, getting a woman is like shooting fish in a barrel.
This article is painful to read. Its written for a level of comprehension that does not exist in normal society.
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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files
by Richard Oliver ini have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
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Steve nailed it. JW's have been behind on this issue. Not exactly "sole channel" material.